Ep.19. Jade Gordon, Keynote Speaker and Power of Positive Leadership Certified Trainer for the Jon Gordon Companies

We have a very special guest today. If you are a sports and business fan, especially positive training, this young lady needs no introduction. She is the daughter of critically acclaimed bestselling author Jon Gordon, Topic Expertise: The Power of Positive Leadership The Power of Positive Team The Power of Positive Leadership for Teens The Energy Bus Jade has worked with companies such as Hanes, Reddy Ice, and Paysafe, many athletic programs including Harvard, Ole Miss, & Auburn, professional teams in the NHL and non-profits about leadership and teamwork. Jade is also a former athlete who helps athletes develop a winning and team first mindset. Jade Gordon is a graduate of Clemson University with a degree in Communications. After college she moved to Los Angeles to pursue acting while working at Nobu Malibu, a World Famous restaurant. She learned the art of great customer service by loving and caring about the people she encountered daily. She brings that same love and passion to her keynotes and workshops. She is a Power of Positive Leadership Certified Trainer for the Jon Gordon Companies. Jade Gordon is my guest today on the Heroes and icons podcast.

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Welcome and thank you for joining us today on the heroes and icons podcast. I'm your host greg randall Please find me on the x at greg heroes icons And please visit my new website heroes and icons podcast. com to get updates for great shows like this  and others I'm also a featured podcaster on HoustonCityBeat.

com. That's a cool website for happenings and local businesses in the Houston area. Please check them out as well. And if you're enjoying the show, please help me grow the podcast by sharing any of these inspiring episodes with a friend. Thank you for doing that. We have a very special guest today. If you are a sports and business fan, especially positive leadership training,  this young lady needs no introduction.

She is a keynote speaker and workshop facilitator for the John Gordon companies where her topics of expertise include, but are not limited to, the power of positive leadership, The power of positive team, the power of positive leadership for teams, and the energy bus. Jade has worked with companies such as Hanes, Ready Ice, and Paysafe, many athletic programs including Harvard, Ole Miss, and Auburn, professional teams in the NHL, and non profits about leadership and team first mindset.

Jade Gordon is a graduate. of Clemson University with a degree in communications. After college, she moved to Los Angeles to pursue acting while working at Nobu Malibu, a world famous restaurant, where she learned the art of great customer service by loving and caring about the people she encountered daily.

She brings that same love and passion to her keynotes and workshops. She is both a keynote speaker and a power of positive leadership certified trainer for the John Gordon companies. And she happens to be the daughter of critically acclaimed best selling author, one in the same John Gordon. Jade Gordon is my guest today on the heroes and icons podcast.

How are you doing, Jade? Thank you so much for being my guest today. I'm doing great. Happy to be here. Excited for this conversation. Well, likewise, , I've been looking forward to this one for a while. So you keep a really busy schedule. What are you working on presently?

So typically I'm traveling around the country working with sports teams, companies, schools, uh, teens as well, doing keynotes, workshops, so just really talking about the power of positive leadership, the power of positive team, and so that kind of keeps me busy traveling around the country and and doing my best to impact as many people as possible.

Excellent.  I want to ask you  specifically about the, the power of positive leadership for teens. I mean, that has to be pretty encouraging  to make a difference , with the kids, right?  How does that specific program work for you guys? So we, my dad has the book, the power of positive leadership.

And we, we kind of took that and created a training program or a workshop. And so we were doing this with companies and adults, and we realized, you know, a lot of teens are struggling, especially, you know, I remember myself in middle school and high school, really struggling and needing positivity, needing these leadership principles that I can apply to my own life.

And so, um, we took that workshop. And kind of formatted it a little bit to be the verbiage and the lingo to be more suited towards teens. Um, but it's, it's the same principles, same concepts. And so basically it teaches teens, um, kind of how to have a vision of what you want to create. How to overcome negativity.

How to have optimism, positivity and belief, how to deal with negativity, have great relationships and move forward through adversity and challenges with a positive mindset. So we kind of taken that workshop. And so when people bring me in, um, I work with them and we do activities, they have workbooks, getting them to write down, you know, some negative thoughts that come into their head.

Cause we all deal with negative thoughts, but taking those negative Thoughts and speaking positive truth to those of I am good enough. I am here for a reason. I am worth all the things that I worked for. And so really getting them to not sit in the negativity that a lot of people and teens struggle with, but to move forward through that with the tools to overcome the challenges and the adversity.

So that's kind of how it works and, and what we're doing with teens to help impact them in that way. Excellent. I love that you guys are making a difference with the kids because those are, those can be some pretty tough ages, you know, 12, 13, 14 and you know, you've, you've got your peers and everything else.

 Speaking of that, , let me go back  just a little bit to your lacrosse playing days. Your dad  was your coach for a while. And so, my question is , how inspiring and maddening was it for you? to have him  as both a coach and,  your dad at the same time.

So he wasn't my high school coach. He, he always coached me no matter what, um, even in middle school and things like that, but it definitely, um, It was an interesting dynamic, especially now, even working together as him being my boss. And so knowing how that kind of, uh, worked out when I was younger, you know, helped today, , for us to work together, but it definitely was both beneficial and also very maddening, like you said, so it was one of those things where having the dynamic of him being my dad, but also coaching me and pushing me and holding me accountable and holding me to a standard.

It definitely, um, There was many times where I did want to quit playing lacrosse for sure. Right,  It's important to  have your parents involved in the in those activities and you don't we don't appreciate it at the time Maybe but yeah as we as i've gotten older  for sure,  I appreciate how much my parents did in that regard to get  myself and my brothers to all of our, , baseball and soccer and everything else that we had going on.

So, so I definitely, I definitely appreciate it. Now, at least more than I did back then. But how did, so how did those experiences and working with your dad, how did that, how did those kind of help shape your career and what you're doing today? So growing up, um, with my dad doing what he does, I always said, I will never speak.

I will never do what you do. You're so annoying. Cause sometimes like you just don't want to hear all the positivity. Right. And so I always said I would never do this. But now that I feel like it's what I've been called to do before I started speaking and I decided I wanted to, but before I had even done any keynotes, we kind of sat down and said, okay, how is this going to work?

Cause I said, you drive me nuts. I love my dad. My favorite person on the planet, but sometimes he just, he's so organized and so diligent that I didn't get that from him. So we kind of, that's what all our fights usually consist of, of him being like, why can't you just be like me? Um, but we had a conversation that he had learned from his friend of putting on different hats.

So he'll call me and say, Hey, I have my dad hat on. This is your dad. How are you doing? Or he'll say, Hey, this is your boss. And so we kind of have, it's really been beneficial because we've navigated conversations of, is this my boss or is this my dad? And so it's like, Hey, this is your boss. If you don't do this, And then there's the ones where it's like, Hey, this is your dad.

How can I help you? So it's, it's funny, but it's actually really prepared me for, you know, this, what I'm doing and how we have the dynamic that we do. Cause when we first started kind of working together, we were like, how is this going to go? This is either going to go amazing or it's going to be awful.

And my dad's like, you're either going to quit or I'm going to have to fire you. Um, But it has been so amazing just using that of the different hats of, um, understanding what mode we're each in of like, Hey, this is, or I'll call him like, Hey, can I talk to my boss? I have something really important to ask.

And then he's like, yep, this is your boss. So it's really, really helped. The work that I do because my dad obviously does the same exact thing as me. And so it's allowed us to have an even better relationship and understand each other on an even deeper level because I understand what he goes through and he knows where I've been with traveling around and speaking and all that kind of stuff.

So it's just honestly , been great. Truly. , that was one of my main questions here that I had for you. , it's just common for family businesses, but what is it like to not only work for your dad's company, but what is it like to work directly with your dad? 

And how has that strengthened your relationship with him?  

Yeah, it's cool because sometimes I'll go speak at events and before I go, obviously, each group I speak to is different and I'll tell different stories and maybe, uh, you know, do different principles in different ways. And so it's really been cool to call him and say, Hey, I'm about to speak to this company.

Do you think this story would be great to tell? Or do you think they would resonate with this? Or he'll call me and say, Hey, I'm about to speak to this team. Should I tell this story or this story? And so it's really allowed us to bond even more. I mean, we're super close because growing up, I played lacrosse.

And so he came with me to most of my tournaments and, you know, was always coaching me and all these different things, but it's allowed us to, as adults, really bond on a deeper level because we both do the same thing and we both understand what the dynamic is with each audience. And so it really has been so cool, honestly, as an adult, remembering little me being like, I never want to do this.

I never want to work with you to now doing it and feeling like this is the best thing ever. Like I get to work with my dad. He's still my dad. We're not, we don't fight as much, which is great. We thought we were going to, but it's just been so cool. So beneficial. And not only is it cool for us, but we get to impact so many people.

And a lot of people will say, you know, I struggled with a lot of imposter syndrome when I first started doing it, but people will say, you know, Jade, sometimes when you go speak to teens, it's better that you're 25. They, they don't want to hear from a 50 year old man, right? Because. Well, my dad's keynotes are great.

My dad's amazing. It's each group resonates with somebody differently, right? And so it's been cool to see the difference in, okay, what would you do here, dad? Okay. If he's speaking to a younger audience, Hey, do you think this story would resonate with them more? And so it's just been truly amazing to get to work together and just find different ways to impact people on another level.

That's a really great point because you're a lot closer in age. You're probably closer to the teacher's ages than than your dad would be. Exactly. Is that pretty close? Yeah, I've spent a lot. Yeah, of people being like, you know what, we've just graduated college and now we're teaching. And we are struggling and how do I, you know, face these challenges and adversity.

And so giving them the tools to do that, because they're also impacting the next generation, right? So it's kind of like a cycle of helping each other out. But that is what I hear a lot of like, Hey, we want a 25 year old who's closer to their age, who understands more. So like, yeah, maybe your dad exceeds you.

Experienced it, but it was a long time ago. And so it's been kind of cool to see people wanting the younger people to come in and have an impact on the next generation. Oh, very cool. Very cool. , I can absolutely see how that would, how, that would be a big dynamic  in the ranges of ages is what I'm trying to say.

Yeah, definitely. So when did, when did you, Jade, when did you first start, when did you first know that you wanted  to maybe follow in your dad's footsteps? It wasn't until, um, after COVID. So COVID happened, I was living in L. A., working at a place called Nobu. And I, Really was miserable. I was there for a year and a half and a woman basically came up to me and told me that she saw me going all around the country, speaking and impacting people.

And she didn't know who my dad was. Didn't know what he did. And so when she said that, I was like, wow. Like maybe, you know, I don't want to be here at no go anymore. I didn't know what I wanted to do after I graduated college. I have a degree in communications. What should I do? And so when she said that, I was like, okay, maybe I'm supposed to start speaking.

So I called my dad and I said, I want to start speaking. And he was like, you're doing this because you want to write, not because you think I want to want you to. And I was like, no, I think I'm supposed to do this. And so my dad being my dad, he said, all right, you either sink or swim, like, figure it out.

And so I was like, okay. And so I started, I went through his training program, learned how to kind of be a speaker and facilitate workshops. And then obviously growing up with him, I know this stuff kind of like the back of my hand, but being able to kind of help people or, or translate it to them is a whole other thing in itself.

And so when that woman said that to me, that was kind of the moment that I had this thought of like, Oh. I could start speaking. But of course, having the imposter syndrome of, you know, are people going to compare me to my dad? What if people say, Oh, John Gordon's daughter is awful, or she's not as good as him.

And so that kind of held me back a little bit. But it was like when I realized, okay, I think I'm supposed to do this. And it wasn't, It was a moment of, it's not just about me or just for me. It's about how can I take the message that my dad is sharing with people because he can't be at all places at once.

So how can I also have an impact of sharing this message? And so that was kind of the aha moment of where I realized, okay, I'm supposed to join my dad's company and start sharing this message to impact as many people as possible.  I was going to say, I think. I think almost everyone , who's ever tried , to do something in there, there's that uncertainty.

so I think almost everybody has that,  that, Hey, am I supposed to be here? Am I, you know, am I, am I this, am I that or whatever? So I think everyone has that, that imposter syndrome, but you know, everybody's got a place. Everybody, if they want it, there's a place for them.

 You're certainly doing that.  In the movie Jerry Maguire in, in one of the offices, and if I'm, if I'm recalling this correctly, there's a sign that reads, a positive something is better than a negative anything.  How proud are you of your dad , in his transformation to being such a positive  influence in making such a huge impact?

So funny you talk about that movie. That's one of my, I love any Tom Cruise movie. And so we grew up saying, show me the money, Jerry. And so I love that so much. Um, but I would say if my dad didn't change, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing today. And so not only did it impact him, But it impacted his family and impacted so many people.

And so when my mom tells me stories of what, how he used to be before he, you know, became super positive and started doing this, I just don't believe it. Cause I'm like, there's no way my dad was like that because I've seen him. Be positive from the beginning, but realizing he's not naturally positive. So it's seeing him work at it every single day and seeing how he applies this stuff to his life.

Cause it also would be different if he was sharing these principles and all these things, but behind closed doors, he wasn't living it out. He was being hypocritical, but he truly. embodies the things that he teaches to people and the things he talks about. And so it's been such a great example for me now that I'm doing this work to say, Hey, I, I need to do these practices.

If I'm teaching people them because they're life changing, it's, it's a mindset practice, right? And so getting that to be a habit, not only impacts you, we say, Being positive doesn't just make you better. It makes everyone around you better. And so I would say seeing my dad be this positive person has been so, so cool because so many people come up to him and say, Hey, you changed my life.

And he wouldn't have done, he wouldn't have been able to do that if he didn't first change his life. And so it's a testament to what the work that we're doing, how it can have an effect on every single person we encounter. And so I think it's just super, super cool. Very much so. , it kind of sounds like maybe he grew up with, not being around positive influences.

 So  if that's the case, I mean, I had kind of a similar thing and so it's,  it takes a lot of work and , it's a big mountain to climb. And so  he's definitely made such, such a huge impact. And, you know, I finally read the one truth and it's just, I mean, just a phenomenal book.

Yeah, it really is. It even changed my life too. So it's like one of those things where growing up, you don't want to admit your parents, right. But as an adult, it still kind of pains me sometimes to say that, right. I'm like the one truth. And I'm like, wow, this is next level stuff. Like this, it's impact. It impacted me the way I think about things.

Um, I was with a friend the other day and they were like, Oh, if I do this, And I was like, that's separation. And so we joke about it, you know, because it's become like kind of our lingo of like have an abundance mindset, like, Oh, that's separation. And so it's been, you know, but it's, it's changing people.

And so it's just, it's just so cool that, that he does this and that I get to even be a part of it. So I'm super grateful for that. Well,  you're both very fortunate to have each other. And, I love  your program and  and what you guys are doing.  Let me ask you about this.

So the first time that, that you spoke in front of a team,  it was Clemson baseball. What were your emotions like before you spoke to them? How did they receive you? And then how did your speech make an impact , on their team that year?

So I'm just thinking about how I felt in that moment. I mean, I was so nervous and scared and still was, that was like the peak of the imposter syndrome. And so I remember being there and I had just gone to kind of support my dad. Cause obviously I went to Clemson and I always love going back, but five minutes before he was about to speak to them is when he said to me, you're going to speak to the team.

And I was like, what? No. Oh my gosh. Like I didn't even have time to prepare anything. And he was like, Nope, you're doing it. You have to have courageous confidence, go out there. And I want you to share a principle, tell them a story. And that's all you have to do. And I was like freaking out because I'm thinking to myself, these are guys my age.

They're my peers. They're not going to want to listen to a girl. These are baseball players. And so I was just like, you know, had so many different emotions, but I literally just went out there and did it. Couldn't even tell you what I said in the moment. I, after I finished, I was like, what did I just say?

Because it's one of those things where sometimes when you get on stage, you just blackout. And so I shared a principle with them of talking to yourself versus listening to yourself. Right. And, um, I can't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure they had an amazing season that. That year, the rest of the year, not that it had anything to do with me or my dad, right?

But it's having, giving those tools, talking to yourself, first listening to yourself, to get through the challenges that they were going to face in the season. Um, but. They're baseball players. So, you know, they're, they're hard to read, right. But apparently, you know, they had, they had a great season. They really were hungry for that information.

Um, but it was one of those things where I was freaking out. I was nervous, but I just went out and did it. And that kind of set the tone for now, the rest of the two, over two years that I've been speaking to. Speaking of even if I feel like, you know, I'm nervous, it's not about me. It's about all the people that I'm going to impact and how I can help change their lives with one story, one principle or whatever, whatever they need in that moment.

Well, I mean, baseball , is certainly a game of confidence and , any sport is so, so I'm sure  that helped them quite a bit , to raise their awareness , to have , a mindset of, , instead of saying, ,  you're a , whatever someone wants to call themselves  in those moments, they miss a sign from the third base coach or they don't tag up a third or whatever it is, there's a better way to, to talk to yourself  and to just not put yourself in that, not put yourself down in that. Sense. That's the separation, right? Definitely. Yeah, so I'm hoping that, that it impacted them and that they're talking to themselves versus listening to themselves. Because you don't want to listen to the negativity, the doubt. You want to talk to yourself with those words of encouragement to help them to be more positive, right?

That's, it's huge in everyone's life, right? Absolutely.   How much , do you think that yelling  or negative talk or criticism affects a player  and then what's the line then between encouraging a player or a teammate and , maybe offering them  a correction or encouragement and raising their awareness of, of whatever the situation is?

So a lot in a lot of the workshops we talk about is love and accountability. And it's like having relationships, I think, are the foundation of everything. And so having relationships on a team to where if somebody's dealing with negativity or struggling with something, having somebody on the team to offer those words of encouragement, just, but to say, Hey, How do we take this challenge, this adversity, this negative thing that you're facing and turn it into a positive.

So having that mindset shift, that different perspective to help allow them to not sit in the negativity, to not allow the negativity to sabotage them or the team as a whole. But how do I find the balance of love and accountability of showing you encouragement that I love you while also still holding you accountable of saying, Hey, Thank you.

Let's move through this in a positive way. Cause I'm not going to let you sit in this negativity, or I'm going to hold you to a standard that's been set on this team. And so really we, we think that's crucial in relationships because if I don't have that relationship with you, or I'm not pouring into you, or you don't feel like I care or showing you that I'm committed to you with support, if I offer you constructive criticism or, or advice.

You're going to be more likely to be receptive to it if we have established a great relationship, if you know that I care about you. But if I'm giving criticism, if you're being negative and I'm just on you, I'm giving you a hard time. You're probably going to say, Hey, get off my back. And that could lead to burnout.

So we want to find this balance of when somebody is struggling with negativity or whatever's going on, how do we support them to not allow them to bring us down, but to bring them up Up to that higher state of mind, right? And help them move through that in a positive way. And we see that that's been crucial for having a connected, united team of those little individual relationships between people.

Cause that creates one connected, united team moving through the challenges, moving through the adversity and the negativity. Absolutely. And I was just going to say, you know, it's probably going to be received a lot better. if it's in a one on one situation, you pull somebody aside, you don't call them out in front of the team or the group or,  the other positive though, is that, you know, Is it when something like that does happen in a team setting, , it's not to make an example , of somebody, but that, that player, that person is probably going to be faced with that situation again.

And so they're going to, that's going to give them that experience , to know, Oh, Hey, this is what happened last time. , let's be sure we're doing, , X, Y, Z,  whatever the game situation might be. Definitely. I totally agree helping them because again, life is not easy, right? We're where you have to be positive because life is hard and we're going to continue to face those challenges and adversity.

And if we allow, if we really allow it to be a mindset practice, where when you have those challenges, you're trying to find the positive, hopefully as a result, every time you face a challenge like that, it may not be the same challenge over and over, but it's going to be probably something similar, like you're saying, that's going to help you.

With the rest of your life, right? Because you're going to continue to face those things. So having the tools to move through it is crucial. And that's good. And that's going to give somebody the confidence for the next time they face that. And then they're going to execute it properly. And then they're going to gain more confidence.

Exactly. Yep. So good. Excellent. This has been just an elevating and empowering conversation already. But  let me ask you just a couple more things here if I can and then we'll move on to the rest of our evening. What is the stage like? How do you approach it? And then what are some things that you do to connect to your audience?

Every stage is different, is different, right? Depending on the audience, where I am, what kind of, if it's in an auditorium, um, what it, what it looks like. Um, but for me, when I first started, I was so nervous. And I remember my dad saying to me, like, just allow the Holy Spirit to move through you. Like, it is not about how well you do.

 If you forget something, it does not matter. everything you're saying, the whole goal is how you can help impact somebody else. And so that helps me to, in the beginning, I was always super nervous to get on stage, but now it's kind of an excitement thing of, okay, how can I impact these people? Like, what do they need to hear?

So that I can help them maybe be more positive or move through their challenges and their adversity. Um, I do sometimes still get nervous because it's like, oh my gosh, you know, how are they going to receive it? What if I mess up? But that's those negative thoughts, right? And so speaking the positive truths is I've done this for so many times that even if I mess up, who cares?

As long as they get the core of what I'm saying, that's all that matters. And so, um, yeah, go ahead. No, no, I was just gonna say people, like, if you do make a mistake or you have a hiccup on something, 99 percent of the people aren't gonna even pay attention to it or acknowledge that it's not like they don't know my full talk, so they don't know if it's, you know, if I miss something, they're not gonna know that.

 And then, to your point, though,  with the Holy Spirit, though, I see so many things and, you know, personal development. , I forget where , I need to give credit here, , but the speaker said, basically,  it's not the light, it's the truth.

That's that's shining on me. It's the light that's shining through me and that's the and that's the big difference there I think yes I always pray i'm like holy spirit use me as a vessel to impact these people. It's not my message It's not my dad's message. It's your message And so that's kind of what helps me but when I connect to the audience, I think that also kind of plays into it Of it's not about me So how do I connect with the audience that they really understand?

And so I feel like when I tell certain stories, that helps them to kind of connect in a way, or maybe they, when you tell a story of, about a principle I'm sharing with them, they kind of get to connect with it. And maybe it's something that can relate to their own life. So that's kind of how I make the connection with them.

But I do also like to, you know, make eye contact with them. On eye contact with people talk to them before before I get on stage and even after having those conversations I think again relationships are crucial And so how can I connect with the audience so that they can get the most out of what i'm saying?

Definitely and you guys do a great job of that.  So what do you try to?  I guess that  it's time and place and it depends on  company or team or  organization this or that but what are  some things that you? You That maybe you try to get them  to focus on it.

 If you were in the audience,  what would you  want to be inspired by? So I mainly talk about the power of positive leadership and go through the principles from that book or the training of the workshop that we've created. And so it's basically, um, a lot of it is having a vision of what you want to create and what are the little things that you can do every single day to achieve that goal.

And we talk about kind of the analogy of the telescope and the microscope. And your telescope is your big picture vision of what you want to achieve and the direction in which you want to go. It kind of serves as your North star and your microscope is your zoom focus actions that you're going to take each day to achieve that goal.

And so getting them to think about things, and I always tell people it can be super broad, it can be for the next year or a vision, even for the week. It can start on Monday and. of what you want to achieve. And so that allows them to think, okay, what do I want to achieve? And what are those actionable items that I can do each day to achieve that goal so that I'm being my best?

Then once we've kind of established that, we talk about dealing with negativity, right? A lot of times people will say, Encounter negativity and we'll try and brush it off and then it festers and gets even worse. So we're teaching them how to deal with negativity. We're really talking about that optimism, positivity, and belief.

We want that mindset practice of finding the negative and looking through the negative to have the positive outcome. So we're teaching them all these different things where I'm teaching them on stage, whether it be a workshop or a keynote to. Do all these different things so that they can lead themselves and also lead other people because that's the power of leadership, right?

And we tell people, you don't have to have a title to be a leader. You don't have to be the boss. You don't have to be the CEO. You don't have to be a captain on your team. You Every single person contributes to the team culture, and every single person is a leader, because you're always leading yourself, either in a positive way or a negative way, hopefully it's positive, uh, or the people around you.

And so those are all the principles that I like to share with people to help them Fuel them, equip them to be a positive leader because we say hopefully you can impact yourself, your team, your organization, and one person at a time we can make the world a more positive place. So that's kind of the things that I share and the things I want them to get out of it to help them be a more positive person.

You guys are doing such  a phenomenal job.  What's next , for Jade Gordon and where can the listeners go to get some more information about you and the amazing expertise that you on the John Gordon companies offer? So I'm at Instagram, jadegordon11 on X, Twitter, uh, jade underscore gordon11.

You can email me at jade at john gordon dot com. And what's next is I got a busy next couple months of really just traveling around, speaking, impacting people, company, teams, teens, just anybody who wants. I'm getting a lot of outreach of saying, Hey, we need this, especially now moving out of the pandemic.

We need this positivity. We need this culture change.  And so  I'm super excited. Anytime I get to go speak and impact people. It's so exciting because it's people are hungry for this. And so,  that's what I'll be up to the next couple weeks and months and just doing my best to bring the power of positive leadership to everybody and anybody who wants it.

 That's fantastic. Thank you jade so much for speaking with me today.  It's really been great to meet you And I really  enjoyed our conversation  thank you. Me too. I'm happy to be here Thank you. Thank you so much jade. All right, everyone Thank you again for listening to the heroes and icons podcast with your host greg randolph once more Thank you very much to our guest jay gordon and a huge shout out to your amazing team at johngordon.

com as well You can find the link to jade's website in the show notes for this podcast. Thank you again everyone for listening Have a great night. God bless